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  • Sonic Core Scope V5 Keygen
    카테고리 없음 2020. 2. 29. 11:54

    Tomylee wrote:did someone report it? With limited manpower you dont focus on something like xcite, you rather focus on something like scope 5 to eradicate all of the bugs of 4.5 to regain trust in the userbase which creamware sadly had lost before. But SC didnt do that, instead they created something bigger than they could handle, now they have twice the work, half the time, nothing gets done, scope gets older and older.I just wonder who finances all such naive journeys.scope 5 could have been stable, bugfree, new gui, new & FASTER workflow, just freaking up to date. The scope concept still rocks on 10 year old pci cards, they should have focussed on software, not hardware, if anything at all they shold have given the cards pci-e, and in a second step more powerful dsps.but not before getting the software straight and earning good money for it!correct me if I am wrong, but as long as there is nothing wrong with scope pci cards hardwarewise, I think xcite is a strategic mistake. Well there's lots of issues with PCI cards. First the infamous PCI overflow issue can never be resolved as that's the technology. Plus in people's minds PCI is a harder sell as they are seeing computers with fewer and fewer (if any) PCI ports so it is considered out of date and certainly not future-proof.

    Of course we all know PCI motherboards are actually still easy to source, but perception is a hard thing to overcome, people just don't want PCI cards anymore. Also with laptops being used more than ever where does the PCI slot even go?So with nothing to sell where do you suggest SC make their money?

    Should they just keep updating an old system to keep the old users happy? They've already bought their systems over 12 years ago in some instances so where's SC's money coming from? Not from PCI sales. Tomylee wrote:with limited manpower you dont focus on something like xcite, you rather focus on something like scope 5 to eradicate all of the bugs of 4.5 to regain trust in the userbase which creamware sadly had lost before. But SC didnt do that, instead they created something bigger than they could handle, now they have twice the work, half the time, nothing gets done, scope gets older and older.I just wonder who finances all such naive journeys.I cannot comment in depth on this assumptions, but talking about loss of userbase by Creamware and expecting a new founded company, S C, has to compensate that on a 100% level is possibly not a fair expectation.If you look at other companies, they go w/ the new products and leave the discontinued ones in the dust. That seems extreme.there are multimillion dollar projects done with this buggy outdated software.

    This issue need a fix, but it's hardly a big problem.you can still make presets, and a workaround has been given to you here:also, there's this:just fyi, S C owes the pci card users NOTHING. However, they did do something that Creamware never did. They spent 2 1/2 years, many tens of thousands and more tens of thousands of dollars of Holger's personal money, so that win7 users could continue to use their pci cards. You can give the literally handfull of people at S C a thank you for that, or i do, which is why i'm involved with the company.i can count three Grammy winners and a member of the motion picture academy as my clients. They have all done award winning work with this 'buggy' software, and they all paid for the priviledge of working with it too. Yep, folks that are used to getting things for free, paid for Scope.v5 only looks like v4.

    A lot had to be changed to make it work with win7. Unfortunately, that was the bandaid that stopped the bleeding. V6 is how that 'outdated' software comes up to date. By the way, the only thing 'outdated' about Scope is the graphics elements. They aren't cross platform anymore, and they go all the way back to win 95/98.

    Changing those elements is a big change to the system. Still, the actual functional part of Scope is as ahead of the curve now as 15 years ago.

    There is no other hard/software that can do a fraction of what Scope does, even with it's few annoyances. Yes, annoyances. As a whole, Scope is still one of the most stable applications in the music world. You wanna talk BUGS? Talk to Cakewalk and Steinberg(i'm very hapy with Cubase, bugs and all).

    Talk to Microsoft or Apple. All complex software has bugs, ALL of it. Whether or not you meet those bugs depends on how you use it.oh, and 4.5 really wasn't a mess. It had a few bugs, yes, but it worked very well. Plenty of people still use it.

    Dante wrote:I'm getting at least the same stability / usability from Scope than I am from Cubase or Reason.How many of reasons synths and effects doesn't work at all? Are there a lot of defects in the Cubase plug-in suite?

    If there are any plugins that doesn't work in 64 bit, do the companies supply this information?I think SC has more short-comings than we like to admit. Sure, its a fine product, but once they sell you 5.1, don't expect anything to be fixed. It's been years since v5 was released, yet they are not even able to provide a patch to reverse the stereo of a wave source (not to mention fixing wave drivers in general), or even make clear what works and what doesn't. I think this reality makes finding new investors hard, compared to if they showed some commitment to their product and actually started fixing stuff.When you use several weeks just for generating a key i take it as a lack of commitment, not manpower. I understand that they are now working on a new key gen, so that is sort of a good sign. Sort of, because online keygen for Scope has been existing for several years.

    None of that is true, except that there are things that don't work in 64bit.it's not true that only S C has software or plugins that don't work in 64bit. Many major software producers have important products that are not 64bit ready. It sucks, but it's not a crime.it's not true about the lack of commitment.

    Sometimes failure is just failure. Sometimes that's the only possible outcome. S C has generally succeeded.

    If you don't want to use your Scope card, DON'T buy v5.1. If it's valuable to you, then by all means DO use it.you have no idea what goes into the product, you only know what you want. There's no problem with that, it's your own business and it's well and good. However, since you don't know what goes into it, you have no business saying what could or could not be done, unless it's qualified as your opinion. A opinion can be on the mark or wildly inaccurate.i've seen first hand what goes on, and i can tell you, because these people work harder than others, you have a miracle to be able to use this system. Again, if it's not useful to you, that's ok. Not everybody is for everything and vice versa.

    If you want it improved, that's great! If you think it's not awesomely great anyway, maybe it's not for you. Again, all i can say is that for many real working musicians, engineers, composers and producers, not bedroom guys, this stuff is freaking cool and it is the thing to use. Scope is something that other makers CAN'T do, it's not just that they won't do it. Some would say shouldn't do, but again, that's fine, just leave it alone in that case.it's really easy to sit on both cheeks and feel all knowing, but there's no one in the entire world who would've done better with the same matereial and circumstances.

    I say that knowing just a little bit of what actually goes on. Again, i'm not saying that there aren't mistakes, missteps, accidents, things that one can just never quite get to. I'm just saying that it's absolutely untrue that those negatives are because S C doesn't care, or is asleep at the wheel, or is just plain incompetent or crooked.

    Garyb wrote:that seems extreme.there are multimillion dollar projects done with this buggy outdated software. One other point i'd like to clarify-about the automated online keyfile gen being in existence 'from long time', yes, Creamware did have such a system on their original website. All of that mechanism was scrapped by Creamware before the first insolvancy because it was insecure and the entire site was hacked.

    Sonic Core NEVER inherited that system, which would be unusable anyway. Setting such a system up is the equivalent of designing a new version of Scope. It's a huge job and it must be dome from scratch.

    It's just not possible to make it happen NOW with the snap of a finger. It's not a matter of being stupid or lazy or unconcerned.it's not like work can just be done without making money either. Both the company and the people in it must make money to survive. S C does many jobs for other companies that Scope users wouldn't know about or care about that actually make money, unlike software for pci cards which just helps stave off the wolves that gather while that software is produced. Still, the committment to Scope hasn't wavered and work goes on. That's a cause for celebration and thanks, not snide remarks, imo.i can say unabashedly that i love Scope. These forums are for fanboys, John Cooper set them up as a fanboy from the start.

    It seems that the reason some post is to troll fanboys so that as trolls, they can feel the self righteousness well up from within. Back at you, if that's the case. Garyb wrote:none of that is true, except that there are things that don't work in 64bit.it's not true that only S C has software or plugins that don't work in 64bit. Many major software producers have important products that are not 64bit ready.

    It sucks, but it's not a crime.I have never stated SC is the only company having 32-bit only plugins. What i am saying is most companies doesn't hide the fact that a lot of their plugins does not run in 64 bit, while specifically recommending W7 64bit for running their system.

    I still haven't seen a clarification on SC homepage as to what is working and what isn't working, even if they are very aware of the issue. Have there been an update for the wave source i am not aware of?

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    It still plays stereo reversed here, so it can't be totally untrue.However i am glad my claim that nothing will be fixed in 5.1 is untrue, and i am eagerly awaiting the update.Most serious companies tries to fix their mistakes. Like for the ModIV-installer which was uploaded in 2009 is still not possible to install on a 64bit OS as it is provided on the ftp. Both You and SC is aware of this, still noone takes the 5 minute job of making it installable. Its not an unfixable failure.

    By the way, did they include the dll making the the tape echo not BSOD your pc yet? Or is it still only available 'elsewhere'? If not, thats another 5 minute job not done.Yes these are my opinions but they are still not lies. I would rather say it's my observations. But thank you for providing me with some wisdom i can use in my professional use when we deliver our next $200.000.000 vessel. 'sometimes failure is just failure. Sometimes that's the only possible outcome.'

    I am sure we will have a bunch of new customers.PS: I saw your last post just before this one was posted. If that troll remark was aimed at me, i am totally fine with it. I didn't expect you to come creeping along the floor crying 'sorry'. Well, i'm not making excuses for problems in the past, i'm only pointing out that there is no malfeasance. I have to accept criticism for failure when it's true, i don't resent a simple criticism.actually, most of the computer business is failure, yet microsoft and Steinberg do quite a bit of business.aimed at you? Not necessarily.aimed at an attitude?

    Definitely.there's no need to troll me or any other supporter of S C. Your observations are legitimate, if not always completely accurate, like the observation about the keygen server. I'll admit that i don't appreciate posts that are always in the negative. At some point, if one is that dissatisfied with a product, anyone who is not simply looking to stir trouble would move on to a place that was more suited to one's needs.NTN, i don't know you personally. I don't really know the circumstance of your life or experience. I'm happy to be your internet friend, enemy, whatever you prefer. You typically post when you want to be sarcastic and dismissive, rarely when you want to just be friendly, or so it seems.

    If i misunderstand and have wronged you, then i really do apologize profusely, humbly and genuinely. Otherwise, i'm just joining in on the fun. Oh well.the only reason I´m complaining is because I cant get my multicard setup to work reliably right after the start. I either have to wait quite long before I get no more sync losses, or reboot & swap cards etc etc, the logic behind this is beyond me. SC supports those cards so they should take care of this, I know they won't/can't cause of lacking manpower and xcite.so what will I do? Limit scope to 1 card which seems to work fine, and work around the bugs, or ditch scope. I'll take reliabilty over features all the time, I would rather drive a 60hp vw beetle which is a workhorse rather than a 600hp maserati.with realiability I mean not crashing when loading certain plugs, software is doing what you expect the software to do, working drivers, no bsod, and no freaking sync loss or lost connection messages!didn't know about the 50% dsp issues with xcite, but if you pay close to 4k€ instead of 2k you expect it to load up 100% right?

    So I would not call xcite reliable in terms of 'do what you expect the software to do' either. Apart from that it is really close to consciously misleading behaviour if you dont point out thise things on the website of SC, new customers get kind of tricked into buying such stuff and then cant even tell the truth about it or they would loose their investment. That's certainly a problem on your system. I have two multicard systems, that are absolutely reliable. One is used for live stage use.

    Maybe there really is something wrong with one of those cards.about the 50% thing, yes, you might expect 100%, but that's not how things work. It is possible to use almost 100% of dsp resounrces, it depends on what you load and how you load it. Most people are about 60%, which is a buttload of devices and more than worth what is a little bit more than two 15 dsp cards. In fact it's about 6 15 dsp cards worth. It's a good value.when devices get split between dsps, they may or may not work. Also, there are a limited number of connections possible between dsps. ProTools is the same.

    In fact PT's traditional loading is much less dynamic than Scope's. Scope can retry and reshuffle the load(global optimisation). PT just says, 'no'. As i've said before, there are limits to every system. Can this be improved upon? That's part of v6, improving the load routines, making dsps loading more efficient.

    It's not as linear and simple as it appears. As Jimmy will attest, since he had the first XITE, it took several early revisions to get those routines acceptable. They work quite well nowagain, just because there is confusion, S C does NOT support the pci cards.

    In fact, they never made them, Creamware made all of them. They did sell off the remaing cards that were left from Creamware's demise. For a time, while parts still existed and Ralf Dressel was a regular, they did repair them. Now, the cards are long discontinued and no parts exist at S C. They are not supported. Sonic Core DOES make software for those card owners who may want it, and i do my best to help people with their problems, but this is all in goodwill.as the old stock ran out, S C pondered, 'shall we make pci cards? The pci slot is going, going gone.'

    It became clear almost immediately that S C HAD to look to the future, and Holger and Juergen really wanted to make 'the ultimate dsp hardware' for the Scope platform. At first, it wasn't clear that the software wouldn't be exactly the same for the old cards and the new pci-e hardware. It became clear quickly, that the XITE software wouldn't be the same as the software for the pci cards, and that even many devices would need to be optomised for the XITE environment to work properly. Still, S C made the pci version because they couldn't just ask people to throw away perfectly good cards, and because people wanted it.if you think about it, it's really quite amazing that they made a hardware box from scratch that even Analog Devices engineeers thought to be impossible because that many dsps wouldn't function at all, with a pair of custom designed preamps and TWO versions of Scope. During this time, they also did OEM work for many high level clients so that they could keep the doors open.

    I think that they've done amazingly well. I understand people's expectations, but the fact remains that the product is awesome even with it's faults, asumming that your hardware is set up properly and is functioning correctly. Or that's my story and i'm sticking with it.

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